KLUG Meeting Minutes and Agenda (#40) The 40th meeting of the Kingston Linux User Group was held Tues, Feb, 12, 2002, 7PM at RMC. The meeting lasted until about 11:00 PM. The attendees were: Conrad-Avarmaa, Brigitte Drummond, Mark Hammond, Andrew Jezak, Edward Lott, Rodney Miller, George Mitton, Doug Setka, Arthur St. Amand, Noah Szafranski, Mike Wirth, Edwin C. Meeting Schedule: 41 Tue. Mar 12, 2002 - "System Administration I" 42 Tue. Apr. 9, 2002 - "System Administration II" 43 Tue. May 14, 2002 - "Compiling a Kernel" 44 Tue. Jun 11, 2002 - "Introduction To TCP/IP Networking" Summary Of Activities: - Web page and domain - http://www.klug.on.ca/ - Hosted by Internet Kingston! (Thanks!) - We also have klug.ca registered but it is not yet activated. - Mailing List: Send an email with "subscribe klug-general" in the body to majordomo@klug.on.ca - or "subscribe klug-security" in the body to majordomo@klug.on.ca - Usenet Group - kingston.os.linux (General, not just KLUG) Agenda/Minutes: 1) Roll Call and Introductions (if required) - See attendees above. 2) This Meeting: There were 11 attendees to our 29th presentation "Installation HowTo" by Mark Drummond. Before we started Mark collected the donations for the domain renemal that we had discussed on the list. So far we collected enough to register the 2 domains for 2 years each. If any one else wishes to donate please contact Mark directly as there is still another month or so until its due. The longer the renewal period the cheaper it is. So far we have collected $225, the renewal rates are: 1yr = $50 ($50/yr) 2yr = $100 ($50/yr) 5yr = $212.50 ($42.50/yr) 9yr = $337.50 ($37.50/yr) Tonights presentation involved a network Debian 3.0 (Woody) install. To start it off we learned that the Debian distributions are named after the Toy Story characters with the stable being Woody and the development as Sid. Also, the primary install and update mechanism is "apt get", such that "apt get update" updates the list of packages available on the server to install, "apt get install jed" will install and configure the jed editor. Also, "apt get upgrade" will update all installed packages. The list of hosts available to install/update from is stored in /etc/apt/sources. The old update utility was "dselect" but it was suggested not to use it. One "gotcha" that was high-lighted is that there is no "auto probe" of hardware during installation so you must select and configure each item individually. From here Mark started the base installation with 5 floppies, then configured the network. The rest of the installation was from http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ and http://us.debian.org/. The packages were all downloaded first, then the installation started with prompts for configuration details as required. I missed some of the post-config details so always remember to read the installation documentation before starting. During the installation discussion Andrew described an alternate method of dual booting a muti-OS system and still have LILO available. The standard(?) way to install Linux with dual boot is to put LILO in the MBR, which is located at the start of the harddrive itself. The down side of this is that if you subsequently install or re-install a MicroSoft OS it over writes this and if you didn't make an emergency boot floppy then you have to find a creative way to boot Linux and re-install LILO. Andrews approach is to install LILO at the start of the PARTITION that you installed Linux in then set the standard fdisk "boot" flag for the Linux/LILO partition. If a MicroSoft install changes that in the future any `fdisk` utility (MS or Linux) will reset it to the proper partition and Linux is again bootable. If anyone has been stuck in this situation before this solution could be just what you need. That wrapped up the evening and thanks to Mark and all who attended and participated. 3) Next Meeting: Tue, Mar 12, 2002 - "System Administration I"